13 Sep 2012

Lee Rhiannon's Enemies Know How To Troll

By Adam Brereton
Panic over online trolling of celebrities has reached fever pitch. But who will protest the sustained political trolling of Greens Senator Lee Rhiannon, asks Adam Brereton
What is trolling really?

It's obviously more than mere abuse — even when it concerns the repeated vilification of a particular group. It's not, as the Daily Telegraph would have us believe, "sustained, targeted and vicious behaviour towards a person online", that targets "not just celebrities and sports stars but other everyday users".

Trolling has meant something very specific since the early days of the internet, as noted in Gizmodo yesterday:

"[A troll is] one who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument."

Trolling is different from straight-up bile because it takes delight in being churlish. Trolls refuse to argue the point or engage in good faith with the evidence. They play neither the man nor the ball; they shit on the field.

In order to move beyond mere abuse and become trolling, a "social license" — to borrow the term now popular among anti-CSG groups — is necessary. It has to be permitted, or at least not prohibited.

The right-wing French writer Michel Houellebecq, himself the target of a sustained campaign of vilification and character assassination in the French press, wrote in a letter to Bernard Henri-Levy (another of France's "Public Enemies") that,

"...there has always been a scent of the lynch mob around you. Often, when your name comes up in conversation, I will notice an evil grin I know all too well, a rictus of petty, despicable pleasure at the prospect of being able to insult without risk".

To insult without risk; to refuse to acknowledge a person's work or stated policy in favour of repeated smears; to continually dredge up irrelevant, long-dead episodes from the past; to endlessly attack a person regardless of their actual influence in public life, under the laughable auspices of the "public interest"; to attack in a mob and take smug pleasure in every cronyistic remark; and to make attacks under parliamentary privilege or in powerful newspapers without fear of the consequences. That's a real trolling campaign, not abusive tweets from morons.

It's also the campaign that's been waged for years against Greens Senator Lee Rhiannon by members of the Coalition over her past membership of the Communist Party of Australia. The Murdoch press have been avid accomplices, continuing to report on the Senator's "secret past" as if it were new and relevant information.

The latest episode in this tawdry saga took place in New South Wales Parliament, thanks to the Liberal Party's chief troll in that state, Peter Phelps MLC — who until he was disappeared from Twitter was much-loved for his trolling on that platform too.

During a recent session concerning Grandparents' Day, Phelps chose to attack Rhiannon and her mother, Freda Brown. For example:

"As I was saying, the international recognition Grandma Rhiannon has received includes being awarded the Lenin Medal. As she is the only Australian grandmother — nay, the only Australian woman — ever to have gained such an achievement one has to ask what it was for. I presume that it was for her grandmotherly activities, rather than for being an agent of Stalinism in Australia over many years."

When challenged by Greens members, Phelps replied:

"...the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world... It is relevant to talk about the important role that mothers and grandmothers play in bringing up their children and the values they inculcate upon them."

It is also relevant to note that Rhiannon is no longer a sitting member of the NSW Parliament, but Phelps has repeatedly used occasions such as this to single her out. On Mothers' Day, this year, egged on by Labor MLC Luke Foley with shouts of "Talk about Lee Rhiannon and Mother Russia", he said:

"...no sane and rational human being, knowing of the murder of Trotsky or the disgraceful behaviour of the Communist Party after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was announced, could possibly have [been a communist]. It must have been her mother and her love for her mother."

When challenged, Phelps fell back on his usual defence:

"If I am not allowed to use practical examples of the relationship between a mother and a daughter..."

When Rhiannon spoke in the Senate of a revival of "McCarthyism style politics with the intent to discredit my work", Phelps responded in NSW parliament:

"The broad membership of The Greens—quaint folk in Birkenstock sandals and hemp shirts clutching their healing crystals and banging their heads on wind chimes—was taken over by a well-organised communist cadre. From there, the parasitic element used the Greens Party to install its preferred candidates in positions of power. The end result was the elevation of former Senator Kerry Nettle and current Senator Lee Rhiannon."

During a debate on energy and climate change:

Dr John Kaye: Tony Abbott, your Federal leader, accepts [the climate science] so perhaps you should listen to him.
The Hon. Dr Peter Phelps: Perhaps you should listen to Lee Rhiannon.

Duncan Gay, the Coalition's deputy leader in the upper house, has also joined in. During a debate on CSG:

"If you are in doubt, if you are too lazy or if you are so inept that you cannot develop proper policy, the easy way out is to have a moratorium. I am disappointed in the Hon. Jeremy Buckingham because, frankly, he is brighter than that. That is the sort of stuff I expected from Lee Rhiannon, not from him."

The transformation of a woman's name into a de facto insult with no fear of risk — here's to the trolls! She cannot even escape it in TV-land, where talking head debates are usually polished and moderated into oblivion — in July Labor MP Michael Danby derailed an ABC Capitol Hill debate over asylum seekers to once again condemn Rhiannon's past.

Rhiannon's past affiliations are all on the public record, through the reporting of journalists like Mark Aarons and the release of her ASIO file. What new information is revealed by this kind of conduct? None.

In fact, Christian Kerr, who has repeatedly published attacks on Rhiannon and the Greens in The Australian, admitted, "there is no evidence that Rhiannon, seen as an outside contender for the leadership of the Greens, ever worked as a Soviet agent".

No, Phelps and co. do it purely for laughs, proving once and for all the old maxim that a buffoon makes jokes to amuse others, while a gentleman amuses only himself; Phelps is, after all, a true gentleman, a member of the party of bunyip aristocrats.

But what about the more current charge? The one that says Rhiannon is the Stalinist heart of the Greens, running the so-called "Eastern Bloc" of the NSW party like a cult of personality?

Sally Neighbour pursued this theme in a piece for the Monthly in February. Anonymous sources were happy to dish out the dirt on Rhiannon. She's "a fucking communist" whose mob is "out to control everyone and take away the power of states' rights. They're into that fortress mentality. It's crap, it's a reflection of their barricaded world".

If Rhiannon really is the radical Left heart of the party of watermelons, it's hard to see how those politics are reflected in Greens policy. Christine Milne told the Jewish News days after her appointment that the Boycotts Divestments and Sanctions (BDS) issue "is behind us". The party remains committed to a market-based, rather than centrally-planned solution to climate change. The Greens candidates in the Melbourne and Heffron by-elections, Cathy Oke and Dr Mehreen Faruqi, are hardly the vanguard of the oncoming revolution. Peter Whish-Wilson, Bob Brown's replacement in the Senate, was once a committed John Howard voter. As I've written before, the Greens at times appear more like a conservative party than one on the hard left.

But what about her own writing? Rhiannon recently wrote on the future of the Greens in Left Turn:

"Often as political parties grow, decision-making power becomes more centralised ... As the Australian Greens are based on a confederation of states model, there are significant checks on shifting power away from the membership."

Doesn't sound particularly totalitarian, does it? Stories on the Greens typically fail to mention that they are structured differently to the two major parties — policy is developed at a grassroots level. According to the Greens' constitution (pdf), "decisions at all meetings of The Greens will be made primarily by consensus and a serious attempt at all times will be made towards achieving consensus".

Elected members of the Greens are required to vote in line with party policy — why have a consensus-based grassroots party without such a provision? Snap decisions and conflicts of conscience that result in a vote against the party platform require the member to return to the party and indicate why. This is the opposite of Stalinism. One would imagine Rhiannon is bound to respect her party's constitution.

Even if the popular characterisation of Rhiannon is correct, her influence inside the party is greatly overstated by her critics. The risk of mocking her must be negligible; where was the purge in the Greens following Neighbour's unsympathetic Monthly story? And if the Marxist left are still relevant or influential at any level of public life in our much bemoaned post-9/11 world, I'm yet to notice it.

During the Grandparents' Day debate John Kaye replied to Phelps, saying that although Senior Liberal Eric Abetz's uncle was a Nazi, such a fact "would have been irrelevant, just as is the Government Whip's contribution irrelevant". What is less well known is that current members of Barry O'Farrell's government were apprenticed to an actual Nazi collaborator and anti-Semite, Ljenko Urbancic, who was a member of the fascist Slovene Domobrans fighters during the Second World War. Urbancic was influential in the Liberal Party well after he was exposed by Aarons in 1979 — he died in 2006. Liberal MLC David Clarke was his protege, but I suspect we shall be waiting forever for the Fathers' Day diatribe from Phelps proclaiming the paternal love Urbancic must have felt for his adoptive son.

To return to Houellebecq, at the height of the campaign against him, which involved slander both from and about his family, he began to get sick. "I started to get oozing red spots all over my forearms and my legs," he wrote in Public Enemies. Very few were prepared to defend him; fewer were prepared to suggest he not be denigrated without the opportunity to defend himself. A social license for abuse had been granted, in part by smears in the press, but also by those happy to see him spat upon because they considered him a racist and misogynist.

Houellebecq's views are repugnant to many, and perhaps Rhiannon's are too. But what about her health? Or her ability to live a public and private life free from constant self-defence? Supporting the right of beautiful celebrities and footy players to go unmolested online is one thing. But to delight in the ongoing trolling of a woman because of her political affiliations decades ago, while demanding fatuous apologies that will in any case never be accepted, is another thing altogether.

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Lt. Fred
Posted Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 13:52

A beautiful article. I feel sorry for the poor woman, as I've had cause to feel sorry for Pauline Hanson (who I despise) and Henry Reynolds and Barack Obama (who I greatly respect).

James In Footscray
Posted Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 15:57

I'm not sure how pursuing Rhiannon about her past political allegiances is trolling.

She was a supporter of the USSR in the 1980s and edited the pro-Soviet 'Survey' magazine. (I worked in the Socialist Party of Australia bookshop in the 1980s and she was a major figure in those circles.)

I think people should come clean about supporting totalitarian regimes. That's all.

Posted Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 16:40

And I could troll you James, for making uncited claims about Rhiannon. But perhaps I won't.

Posted Thursday, September 13, 2012 - 21:41

I think it's hard to find a more vile and offensive creep than you, geoffff.

Posted Friday, September 14, 2012 - 05:23

geoffff stop hidding behind the antisemitic.

Its you and your kind who went after Latham to insure Howard would get in and save Isreal. Isreal certainly needed a distraction and the war on Terror gave it to them.

A lot of destroying to save something.

Does Israel have a right to be there, do white Aust. have a right to be here. We all breed too much, thats the problem.

James In Footscray
Posted Friday, September 14, 2012 - 06:53

It's ironic there seems to be a lot of trolling in this thread!

Dr Dog
Posted Friday, September 14, 2012 - 08:52

geoffff of course employs the classic trolling device, by stating the opposite of the truth with such ferocity and gall that it sounds, at least to some, like the truth.

Honestly geoffff, are you characterising the Australian left as being more keen on war than the right? This war you speak of is being fought daily by both Israel and Palestine without any significant input by Senator Rhiannon.

Jenny T
Posted Friday, September 14, 2012 - 10:20

There is nothing surprising about a spokes from the left being relentlessly vilified by right wing politicians, News Ltd media and shock jocks.

They are well resourced and it is very difficult to counter their torrent of misinformation, abuse, half truths and general manipulation of the facts, but constantly exposing the dishonesty is a good start.

The author of this article is to be congratulated for shining a light on this ugly behaviour.

For those subjected to untruthful attacks by right wingers, remember there are lots of people who support you.

Posted Friday, September 14, 2012 - 11:18

And antisemitic means people from the region of Semite. Which includes J3ws and Ar4bs (obfuscation of names for the censor)...

Posted Friday, September 14, 2012 - 11:43

What is most noticeable about the Conservative Right is the preponderance to accuse others of that which they are first and foremost guilty.
Examples abound. Tony Abbott, who, like his mentor John Howard, replies (as opposed to answers) questions with meticulous rhetorical obfuscation that is elusive, evasive, and via that circuitous route, intentionally deceitfult. Such deceit is the hallmark of Howard-style Conservative politics ~
John Howard's "core/non core" promises are aped and recycled by Tony Abbott ~ "The statements that need to be taken absolutely as gospel truth are those carefully prepared scripted remarks"
~ "Obviously, when circumstances change, governments do change their opinions, and that is actually the responsible course of action."
To Quote Laurie Oakes ~ "Let's not beat about the bush. To my mind, Tony Abbott tells lies." http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opinion/tony-abbott-has-made-a-string...


Question Authority

Posted Friday, September 14, 2012 - 11:52

Well said, meski1. Which makes me want to scream whenever the Zionist troll lobbies scream 'antisemite' or 'self-hating Jew' against any of those who would argue against the Jewish/Zionist occupation and policies in Palestine. One wonders at any of their supposed intelligence or learning.

Posted Friday, September 14, 2012 - 13:26

Lee Rhiannon’s critics resort to trolling because a serious examination of her activist history doesn’t support the dominant narrative of the corporate media and the major parties that the Greens hide their Left politics behind environmentalism.

The Greens emerged from a tradition – exemplified by the Green Bans – which understood the need for progressive movements to campaign for social and environmental justice. Lee Rhiannon’s activist history mirrors this commitment, for example co-founding AID/WATCH 20 years ago,
which then campaigned against Australian coal mining overseas from a human rights and environmental perspective.

Trolling serves to deflect attention from the serious challenge being mounted by Lee Rhiannon, the Greens and broader social movements to those in power. The thought of a more just, democratic and sustainable world terrifies the trolls in the major parties and the corporate media.

Jennifer Nash
Posted Friday, September 14, 2012 - 17:29

My son Jordan had to leave school due to severe school bullying. And it got worse when he was violently assaulted by police in parliament, brutally handcuffed to the rear, locked up for no reason and falsely prosecuted, all for just standing there and trying to film what went on!

And it was ALL suppressed by the press gallery! And I have also been badly misrepresented and called all sorts of things online including on my YouTube channel and videos, but we don’t get any mainstream media attention!

“Heckler” did not call PM “white trash” – the real story


There is more info on my YouTube channel which details the harrowing and systematically hidden human rights abuses against Jordan: http://www.youtube.com/user/2plus2doesnotequal5

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 01:38

Now Adam, I guess I qualify as a troll too, having mentioned on these boards my own past acquaintance with Lee before the Brown surname became inconvenient.

I think you're wrong to assume the continuing attachment of Lee and her fellow travellers within the Greens to a future Soviet Socialist Republic of Australia does not affect Greens policy. I have noticed that most times when it comes to a choice in Parliament between an outcome that is good for the environment and one that is good for socialism, socialism wins every time. On a couple of the bigger issues, when St Bob was leader, the party even rolled him when he had been foolish enough to promise the Greens would vote for the environmental outcome rather than the socialist one.

For example, when Howard proposed to make it mandatory throughout Australia for all petrol to be 10% ethanol, Sen Brown said what a good idea. His party didn't agree – a company called Manildra made most of the ethanol used in Australian fuels, and its owner was known to be a supporter of Howard's. So Bob had to go back, his tail between his legs, and tell the hated Conservatives that denying business to a friend of the Conservatives was more important to the Greens than cutting greenhouse gas emissions.

Of course in Parliament they argued some other bullsh%t line. If the Brown family learnt one thing from their Russian colleagues it was the art of dissembling.

That and the value of "useful idiots" – Lenin's remarkable term for Western intellectuals like you, Adam.

Posted Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 09:20

Trolling, like other forms of abuse, distracts from actual debate of the merits of someone's philosophy and/or policy. The parliaments don't get much respect from the public because many of their members don't deserve much respect, being more interested in mud-throwing than substantive, dare I hope even educative debate. Much of the media goes along with the show

For the people on this thread who can only mock or distort, providing evidence is a good place to start, and relevance to now and the future seems important too. Public figures by definition need thick skins, but the mis-education and distraction around public policy issues damages our future, as evidence is buried instead of examined. But I guess that's why trolls do what they do...

This user is a New Matilda supporter. milton
Posted Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 10:34

More like this please new matilda! Exploring these issues is why I contribute.

I think it is interesting that the left is asked to bear the responsibility of leftist regimes . Is it therefore incumbent upon us to blame people like peter phelps and Michael Danby for the millions of deaths caused by the usa and her allies in Vietnam, Cambodia & Indonesia let alone central Africa and south America.

Would also be interesting to note while people like Lee fought apartheid in South Africa, which right wing politicians supported it and called Nelson Mandela a terrorist :-)

This user is a New Matilda supporter. milton
Posted Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 11:45

More like this please new matilda! Exploring these issues is why I contribute.

I think it is interesting that the left is asked to bear the responsibility of leftist regimes . Is it therefore incumbent upon us to blame people like peter phelps and Michael Danby for the millions of deaths caused by the usa and her allies in Vietnam, Cambodia & Indonesia let alone central Africa and south America.

Would also be interesting to note while people like Lee fought apartheid in South Africa, which right wing politicians supported it and called Nelson Mandela a terrorist :-)

Posted Saturday, September 15, 2012 - 14:13

@Aussiegreg - as soon as I wrote this piece I set my watch, and what do you know, somebody calls me a useful idiot right on time! Anyone who uses that phrase, especially in the context you've used it, should go and read Czeslaw Milosz's The Captive Mind, where he discusses western and polish intellectuals who became Stalinists. You'll never make a glib call like that again.

What's more, all I've insisted is that Rhiannon be treated like a human being, not that she be exempt from scrutiny or criticism. If we reduce people to their political views and don't see them as worthwhile and deserving of fair treatment purely because of their humanity, then much is lost.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Sunday, September 16, 2012 - 04:46


I did read Czeslaw Milosz’s <i>The Captive Mind</i> a lifetime ago, when as a callow youth I was arguing with my Polish refugee friends about the nature of their country's slide into tyranny, as to how far it was fair to describe (as they did) Poland's communist government as a product of revolutionary socialism when it had been imposed by a military invasion from Russia and was maintained by a continuing occupation by the Russian military.

Of course I was being glib in tarring you with the same brush as Lenin's "useful idiots" – you are not in the same class as the collaborators so sympathetically depicted by Milosz. But there is a depressing similarity in your cast of mind, in your willing suspension of critical faculties in order to fawn over someone you take to share your political values but who may in fact have an entirely different agenda. And in your condemnation of those who dare to bring to light inconvenient truths.

Did you know, by the way, that a young Robert Manne condemned the Milosz work as an apology for communist sympathisers?

And you are being more than a tad disingenuous in suggesting you're not calling for Lee to be spared the kind of scrutiny and criticism those of us who are less useful and idiotic than you might choose to make, completely consistent with what we know to be her character and her beliefs (possibly past but probably continuing).

Your technique for shutting us up is to call us trolls, contributors who by definition should be banned from all forms of public communication.

And I for one have never lost sight of her humanity, and I think a fair assessment of the picture I painted, of the two of us facing down the batons of the New South Wales police that winter's day in 1972, would be that it is a very human one.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Sunday, September 16, 2012 - 05:15



I worked in the anti-apartheid movement in Australia from my school days – modesty forbids my recounting my key role in stopping one of the Springboks' matches! – through the 1970s and 1980s and I don't recall much of a contribution from my old friend Lee.

I hate to be cynical, but I suspect her actual interest would have been less in the ending of apartheid and more in the emergence of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Azania which the Communist Party partner of the ANC was promising (as was the more radical Pan African Congress).

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, but I think it's significant that Nelson Mandela himself insisted that the Truth and Reconciliation Commission record the many acts of terror perpetrated by the ANC's armed wing, which he had founded and which he directed until he was arrested and imprisoned after being found guilty of planning the use of explosives in situations where many innocent people could have been killed.

The man best placed to recount which right-wing politicians supported the white supremacist government in South Africa would be Malcolm Fraser. Much hated by the Left at the time – in contrast to the lovefest we see today – his implacable opposition to apartheid went unrecognised on the Left in the 1970s and 1980s. I'm sure he would be generous enough to those on the Right who were critical of his views to note that many were not racists or apologists for racists but pragmatists who were prepared to sup with the devil to avoid what they saw as the greater evil of a communist dictatorship in South Africa, particularly one allied to the USSR. These were Cold War days, after all.

Posted Monday, September 17, 2012 - 19:50

Why did we arm and feed them during WW2, the Commo's.

Adolf was a Capitalist, but working class and the Aristocracy didn't want another Napoleon.
Brainy Bastards the working Class Idiots.

Posted Monday, September 17, 2012 - 20:50

Been reading your comments, you realy are left over Landed Gentry.

It comes as no suprise to me that Karl Marx was Jewish.

That the Terrorists who flew the planes, spoilt rich Arabs.

And who was the English aristocrat who started the London Riots. The working class women who were in it were Hanged???
it was the 1st time women were hanged and what happened to the spoilt and bored little freckle, nothing.

Was he George George? can't remember.

And now you reveal your own bored, spoilt, revolutionary past. Was life that boring on the land.

Did the women love you, for it. I bet there were some good sorts their, is that why you were in it.

Ah yes, when is a Union, a Union or a Business Council, Lobby Group, Farmers Federation, representing the many by the few to the Government or competition. Its all in the mind isn't it. Worker Unions BAD, Farmers Federation, GOOD.
Yet they have the same purpose in life, representing the many to the few, by the few.

Was Comunism, Russian Style, realy Communism or just a socialist Monarchy as opposed to a Capitalist Monarchy as per USA fame or even English Empire Fame.

At the end of the day you were all a bunch of bored little spoilt Brats looking for, A Challenge, Excitement, Women.
Humans devoid of wisdom, because the human mind does not fully develope until the age of 25. Wisdom is the last to arrive. Take box headed Tony Abbott during his Brain Dead Uni days. BUT, thats life, ain't Ya glad your human.

Posted Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 10:00

Senator Lee Rhiannon is vilified by the traitorous racist Zionists, the Zionist-beholden Lib-Labs and the Mainstream media in particular because of her principled and admirable stand against the horrendous human rights abuses of race-based, genocidal Apartheid Israel and her support for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) against the Israeli Apartheid State.

Zionism is genocidal racism in repugnant theory and in horrible genocidal practice -

2 million Palestinians killed since 1936, 0.1 million from violence and 1.9 million from violently-imposed deprivation;

7 million Palestinian refugees (about 5 million registered with the UN);

only 6.7% of 12 million Palestinian permitted to vote for the government ruling all of Palestine;

90% of the land of Palestine now ethnically cleansed by the genocidal Zionists, this making a 2-state solution impossible (the only humane solution is a unitary, security-guaranteed, non-racist state as in post-Apartheid South Africa);

6 million Palestinians forbidden to live anywhere in Palestine;

1.6 million Palestinians (half of them children, 10% stunted from Israeli blockade) abusively and indefinitely confined without charge or trial to what the Catholic Church has described as the Gaza Concentration Camp for the asserted "crime" of being Indigenous Palestinians living in a tiny patch of the land continuously inhabited by their forbears for thousands of years;

2.5 million Palestinians abusively confined to ever-dwindling West Bank Bantustans;

1.6 million Palestinian Israelis - the "lucky Palestinians" - exist under Nazi- and Apartheid-style race laws and racist practices that demand race-based ID at all times and strongly discriminate against Palestinians in the areas of free speech, political representation, land ownership. access to social services, education, employment, and all of this in an environment of Jewish Israeli hatred and the threat of further expulsion.

For anti-racist Jews and indeed all anti-racist humanitarians the core moral messages from the Jewish Holocaust (5-6 million dead, 1 in 6 dying from deprivation) and from the more general WW2 European Holocaust (30 million Slav, Jewish and Gypsy dead) are “zero tolerance for racism”, “never again to ANYONE”, “bear witness” and “zero tolerance for lying”.

Senator Lee Rhiannon must be praised for adopting the position of decent anti-racist Jewish Australians, of numerous outstanding anti-racist Jewish intellectuals (see "Jews Against Racist Zionism": https://sites.google.com/site/jewsagainstracistzionism/ ) and indeed of outstanding anti-racist non-Jews such as Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu (see "Non-Jews Against Racist Zionism": https://sites.google.com/site/nonjewsagainstracistzionism/ ).

Senator Lee Rhiannon's anti-racism is not a Left or Right thing (although these days most anti-racists belong to the left, and genocidal racists like the Zionists, the pro-war, pro-Zionist, US lackey Lib-Labs, the racist, religious right Republicans (R4s) and pro-Zionist mass murderer Anders Breivik belong to the right).

Indeed Australia's most famous Jewish figure Sir Isaac Isaacs, Australia's first Australian-born Governor General was very conservative and totally opposed to racist Zionism, stating (circa 1946): “The honour of Jews throughout the world demands the renunciation of political Zionism" and "the Zionist movement as a whole...now places its own unwarranted interpretation on the Balfour Declaration, and makes demands that are arousing the antagonism of the Moslem world of nearly 400 millions, thereby menacing the safety of our Empire, endangering world peace and imperiling some of the most sacred associations of the Jewish, Christian, and Moslem faiths. Besides their inherent injustice to others these demands would, I believe, seriously and detrimentally affect the general position of Jews throughout the world" (see Sir Isaac Isaacs, quoted by Wikipedia, ”Isaac Isaacs”: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Isaacs ).

According to the latest Nielsen and News polls about 80% of the population vote for the indistinguishably pro-war, pro-US, pro-Zionist, anti-human rights, pro-racism, pro-Educational Apartheid, anti-environment Lib-Labs (Liberal-Laborals).

The Lib-Labs are not just anti-Arab anti-Semitic and Islamophobic (complicity in the post-1990 Zionist -backed US war on Muslims that has so far killed 12 million Muslims through violence or war-imposed deprivation) they are also
anti-Jewish anti-Semitic by conflating race-based , genocide-based Apartheid Israel with all Jews, including anti-racist Jews totaling opposed to racism and genocide (see "Muslim Holocaust, Muslim Genocide": https://sites.google.com/site/muslimholocaustmuslimgenocide/ ).

The disgusting ABC is anti-Arab anti-Semitic by ignoring the horrendous Muslim Holocaust and Muslim Genocide. - it is also anti-Jewish anti-Semitic by (a) falsely conflating the horrendous crimes of Apartheid Israel with ALL Jews including anti-racist Jews, and (b) by variously sidelining, censoring and defaming anti-racist Jews e.g. by repeatedly broadcasting the vile, false, anti-Semitic vilification of anti-racist Jews critical of Apartheid Israel as "self-hating Jews" (see "ABC Censorship": https://sites.google.com/site/abccensorship/ and "Censorship by ABC Late Night Live": https://sites.google.com/site/censorshipbyabclatenightlive/ ).

What can decent anti-racist Australians do in this look-the-other-way, PC racist, pro-war, pro-Zionist, anti-Semitic, US lackey, Lib-Lab-dominated Australian Lobbyocracy Murdochracy and Corporatocracy?

Decent anti-racist Australians must (a) inform everyone they can (the Mainstream media, including the cowardly ABC certainly won't), (b) support Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions against Apartheid Israel and its racist supporters, including the racist Lib-Labs; and (c) vote 1 Green and put Labor last until it reverts to decent, Whitlam era values - of course, the Libs are just as bad as the Labs but unlike the endlessly lying and pathologically mendacious Lab, the Libs (a) are forthright in their PC racism , neo-fascism and warmongering, (b) don't know any better, and (c) have not actually betrayed decent Labor voters.

Peace is the only way but Silence kills and Silence is complicity.

This user is a New Matilda supporter. aussiegreg
Posted Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 04:12


We armed and fed the Commos during World War II because we thought we might lose without them.

Adolf Hitler was a socialist: he was the Führer, the leader, of the National <i>Socialist</i> German Workers Party, the Nazis.

As for your second post, there's no need to be mean to me, just because I pointed out how much of what you post here is informed by your anti-Semitism.

I was only very briefly on the land, my father using his superannuation to buy a farm while I was at university. I never had the time to be bored – making a living on the land means 80-hour weeks and even then you wonder all the time if there will be enough to pay the bills. And if that's spoilt, give me disadvantaged any day.

And I can assure you, it's no way to pick up girls.

Oh, sorry, you meant being an activist at university. Yes, there was the odd good sort, although the ones who did most of the work tended to be on the plain side. Most of the really attractive girls I met at Uni I met outside my "revolutionary" activities, and the vanishingly small number who found <i>me</i> attractive did so despite my history of interrupting Springboks matches etc, so no, that wasn't why I was in it.

I have never said all the unions were bad or even that most of them act badly at least some of the time. My view of unions is doubtless skewed by my own bad experiences. The Farmers Federation has never threatened to have pallets of my stock disappear to "settle" a dispute with me; they have never intimated I will suffer physical violence if I do not agree with their viewpoints in relation to installations of new technology.

To go beyond my own experience, the Farmers Federation National Secretary has never spent hundreds of thousands of dollars of his members' money on prostitutes et cetera, nor has the National Party preselected such a person for a safe Federal seat knowing of his crimes. Nor has the National Party's favoured law firm had a future prime minister draw up for free, and without any paper trail within the firm, fake articles of association to establish a slush fund ostensibly to be used for electioneering by a Farmers Federation executive member (who just happens to be the boyfriend of that future prime minister) but in fact to be used to house money corruptly extorted from agribusinesses until it could be diverted to the private purposes of the boyfriend and his colleague.

So yes, I do think there is a difference between a trade union and other representative bodies like the Farmers Federation.

Lee Rhiannon <i>née</i> Brown would certainly have said that Communism, Russian Style, was <i>really</i> Communism – whatever it really was, I just wonder if she still dreams of a Soviet Socialist Republic of Australia.

Maybe Lee, I, and our many fellow activists <i>were</i> just "bored little spoilt brats looking for a challenge, excitement, and women" (although that last would make Lee a lesbian which would come as a shock to her husband), and I'm sure we are all prone to overstating our achievements – I lay claim to personal responsibility for the fall of the white supremacist government in South Africa, for example, while I share with Lee the credit for ending Australia's involvement in the war in Vietnam and the policy of military slavery known as conscription. And don't get me started on nuclear power.

But the kind of lifestyle adopted by a majority of our fellow students seems to me far more easily adaptable to that description.